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Post by admin on Apr 27, 2018 6:55:56 GMT -8
www.nytimes.com/2018/04/26/arts/television/bill-cosby-guilty-retrial.html
It doesn't surprise me that Cosby was a rapist. He even did a comedy bit about drugging women. SICK! It DOES surprise me that he was convicted. I believe he'll receive a light sentence to serve comfortably at his home.
I never could stand this man. That stupid face he would make that he thought was funny was insufferable to me. Probably the single most thing I couldn't stand about him. Never thought he was funny. Never thought the Cosby Show was funny.
Here's an ironic story about him. In the '60s, Janis Ian recorded a hit song (Society's Child) to bring attention to racism against blacks. When she performed it on the Smothers Brothers Show, Cosby was also a guest. He saw her backstage laying her head on her female manager's head to rest. He saw it as a lesbian thing and tried to get her blackballed from performing on TV citing that she was not good for 'family' entertainment. Imagine a black man trying to blackball a child (Ian was only 16) who wrote a hit song about a black man facing racism. What a jackass Cosby was even then.
Even though I think this bit is funny, I see it in a new light. Vergara is lucky she wasn't invited back to his room. I doubt she would've gone anyway.
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Post by James T. Kirk on Apr 27, 2018 10:35:30 GMT -8
Yeah, don't you just hate the way these wealthy "stars" feel like women are there just for their pleasure. They think they can just walk up to them and grab them by the p***y and they don't say anything because they're TV celebrities. Some even brag about to others. Disgusting!!
I agree with just about everything you say about Cosby, but your indignation is a bit phony considering the way you've given a pass to Trump as if all his accusers are liars. He said he was going to sue them all.
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Post by Heeeeey on Apr 27, 2018 11:46:53 GMT -8
Yeah, don't you just hate the way these wealthy "stars" feel like women are there just for their pleasure. They think they can just walk up to them and grab them by the p***y and they don't say anything because they're TV celebrities. Some even brag about to others. Disgusting!! I agree with just about everything you say about Cosby, but your indignation is a bit phony considering the way you've given a pass to Trump as if all his accusers are liars. He said he was going to sue them all. Kirk, please look up the word 'consensual'. Trump was talking locker room trash about groupies...look up 'groupies' too.
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Post by James T. Kirk on Apr 27, 2018 12:18:09 GMT -8
Yeah, don't you just hate the way these wealthy "stars" feel like women are there just for their pleasure. They think they can just walk up to them and grab them by the p***y and they don't say anything because they're TV celebrities. Some even brag about to others. Disgusting!! I agree with just about everything you say about Cosby, but your indignation is a bit phony considering the way you've given a pass to Trump as if all his accusers are liars. He said he was going to sue them all. Kirk, please look up the word 'consensual'. Trump was talking locker room trash about groupies...look up 'groupies' too. You hear what you want to hear and believe what you want to believe because YOU are the consummate Trump groupie. The conversation was about Nancy O'Dell and he's heard saying “I moved on her and I failed,” Trump says. "I’ll admit it. I did try and f*** her. She was married." Does that sound like he was talking about some groupie? Trump is a sexual predator, a liar and a ass-hole. If you want to kiss his ass, that's your business. But don't try to convince anyone else Trump is any less a threat to women than Cosby. abcnews.go.com/Politics/list-trumps-accusers-allegations-sexual-misconduct/story?id=51956410
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Post by Heeeeey on Apr 27, 2018 13:40:20 GMT -8
Kirk, please look up the word 'consensual'. Trump was talking locker room trash about groupies...look up 'groupies' too. You hear what you want to hear and believe what you want to believe because YOU are the consummate Trump groupie. The conversation was about Nancy O'Dell and he's heard saying “I moved on her and I failed,” Trump says. "I’ll admit it. I did try and f*** her. She was married." Does that sound like he was talking about some groupie? Trump is a sexual predator, a liar and a ass-hole. If you want to kiss his ass, that's your business. But don't try to convince anyone else Trump is any less a threat to women than Cosby. abcnews.go.com/Politics/list-trumps-accusers-allegations-sexual-misconduct/story?id=51956410It sounds like a fishing story (the one that got away). How true it is, I don't know. Even if it is, I didn't vote for his personality or his sex life. I voted for his platform. So far, he's on the verge of winning a Nobel Peace Prize for something more than what Obama won it for. North Korea has vowed to remove their nukes and not wage any wars. That's the kind of thing I care about.
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Post by James T. Kirk on Apr 27, 2018 15:38:54 GMT -8
You hear what you want to hear and believe what you want to believe because YOU are the consummate Trump groupie. The conversation was about Nancy O'Dell and he's heard saying “I moved on her and I failed,” Trump says. "I’ll admit it. I did try and f*** her. She was married." Does that sound like he was talking about some groupie? Trump is a sexual predator, a liar and a ass-hole. If you want to kiss his ass, that's your business. But don't try to convince anyone else Trump is any less a threat to women than Cosby. abcnews.go.com/Politics/list-trumps-accusers-allegations-sexual-misconduct/story?id=51956410It sounds like a fishing story (the one that got away). How true it is, I don't know. Even if it is, I didn't vote for his personality or his sex life. I voted for his platform. So far, he's on the verge of winning a Nobel Peace Prize for something more than what Obama won it for. North Korea has vowed to remove their nukes and not wage any wars. That's the kind of thing I care about. You know as much about Tramp as you do about Cosby. In fact you heard Tramp in his own words and voice. And both deny all the accusations. So if Cosby got North Korea to de-nuke you wouldn't care about his sex life? Tramp and Cosby are two of a kind. And Tramp's on the verge of imploding. Oh, I did look up "groupie" in the dictionary like you suggested. No definition; just your picture.
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Post by Heeeeey on Apr 28, 2018 6:59:47 GMT -8
It sounds like a fishing story (the one that got away). How true it is, I don't know. Even if it is, I didn't vote for his personality or his sex life. I voted for his platform. So far, he's on the verge of winning a Nobel Peace Prize for something more than what Obama won it for. North Korea has vowed to remove their nukes and not wage any wars. That's the kind of thing I care about. You know as much about Tramp as you do about Cosby. In fact you heard Tramp in his own words and voice. And both deny all the accusations. So if Cosby got North Korea to de-nuke you wouldn't care about his sex life? Tramp and Cosby are two of a kind. And Tramp's on the verge of imploding. Oh, I did look up "groupie" in the dictionary like you suggested. No definition; just your picture. Cosby was innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Trump is guilty of boasting but he hasn't been tried and convicted like Cosby has.
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Post by James T. Kirk on Apr 28, 2018 7:49:30 GMT -8
You know as much about Tramp as you do about Cosby. In fact you heard Tramp in his own words and voice. And both deny all the accusations. So if Cosby got North Korea to de-nuke you wouldn't care about his sex life? Tramp and Cosby are two of a kind. And Tramp's on the verge of imploding. Oh, I did look up "groupie" in the dictionary like you suggested. No definition; just your picture. Cosby was innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Trump is guilty of boasting but he hasn't been tried and convicted like Cosby has. If someone commits an act, they are "guilty" of that act regardless of whether they are "convicted" or not. If the jury had not convicted Cosby he would have still been guilty, just not according to the law, if he did what he was accused of. If he wins the case on appeal he will still have committed the same acts. You are confusing criminality with immorality. Both Cosby and Tramp are immoral people. You've heard what Tramp said in his own words and voice. You just choose to ignore it because you're a Tramp groupie. You obviously have never liked Cosby, so when he does the same things as Tramp, you go ape-sh*t. That's as phony as it gets. You can't expect people to take you seriously when you don't hold people to equal standards of behavior based on your politics.
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Post by Heeeeey on Apr 28, 2018 9:09:39 GMT -8
Cosby was innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Trump is guilty of boasting but he hasn't been tried and convicted like Cosby has. If someone commits an act, they are "guilty" of that act regardless of whether they are "convicted" or not. If the jury had not convicted Cosby he would have still been guilty, just not according to the law, if he did what he was accused of. If he wins the case on appeal he will still have committed the same acts. You are confusing criminality with immorality. Both Cosby and Tramp are immoral people. You've heard what Tramp said in his own words and voice. You just choose to ignore it because you're a Tramp groupie. You obviously have never liked Cosby, so when he does the same things as Tramp, you go ape-sh*t. That's as phony as it gets. You can't expect people to take you seriously when you don't hold people to equal standards of behavior based on your politics. So if someone merely accuses someone they are automatically guilty? Is Bill Clinton guilty of rape? I would agree that all politicians are amoral, including Hillary Clinton. We still have to elect one of them to be POTUS, and if the Democrats didn't make the imbecilic choice to run Hillary, I doubt Trump would have won. I am not a Trump groupie and he seems like a difficult man. I even feel sorry for Melania. But again, whether or not I would like to have 'a beer' with someone is a Democrat criteria. That is not my criteria for voting for someone.
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Post by James T. Kirk on Apr 28, 2018 11:35:09 GMT -8
If someone commits an act, they are "guilty" of that act regardless of whether they are "convicted" or not. If the jury had not convicted Cosby he would have still been guilty, just not according to the law, if he did what he was accused of. If he wins the case on appeal he will still have committed the same acts. You are confusing criminality with immorality. Both Cosby and Tramp are immoral people. You've heard what Tramp said in his own words and voice. You just choose to ignore it because you're a Tramp groupie. You obviously have never liked Cosby, so when he does the same things as Tramp, you go ape-sh*t. That's as phony as it gets. You can't expect people to take you seriously when you don't hold people to equal standards of behavior based on your politics. So if someone merely accuses someone they are automatically guilty? Is Bill Clinton guilty of rape? I would agree that all politicians are amoral, including Hillary Clinton. We still have to elect one of them to be POTUS, and if the Democrats didn't make the imbecilic choice to run Hillary, I doubt Trump would have won. I am not a Trump groupie and he seems like a difficult man. I even feel sorry for Melania. But again, whether or not I would like to have 'a beer' with someone is a Democrat criteria. That is not my criteria for voting for someone. Read all of what I said before you reply, not what you want to read into it. If I intentionally kill someone and no one ever finds out I did, I am still guilty of murder. Is it really that hard to understand? I'll take it one step further in case you still don't get it. If someone accuses me of something I did, yes I'm guilty. If someone accuses me of something I didn't do, no I'm not guilty. Take the court system out of it. I'm not guilty of something because someone says I did something. I'm only guilty if I did what they say I did, or if I'm like Tramp, I ADMIT it on tape. And here we go again with Bill and Hillary. That's what you always do when someone tells the ugly truth about Tramp. If she was President it would be relevant, but since she isn't, it's just a feeble attempt to divert from the subject. And not that it has anything to do with Tramp, but yes I believe Bill Clinton is a rapist, among other things. And as I recall, you voted for him. And there was a third choice in the election. Write in the name of a person worthy of the job. I did and I feel better for having not voted for Tramp or Clinton.
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Post by admin on Apr 28, 2018 14:51:41 GMT -8
So if someone merely accuses someone they are automatically guilty? Is Bill Clinton guilty of rape? I would agree that all politicians are amoral, including Hillary Clinton. We still have to elect one of them to be POTUS, and if the Democrats didn't make the imbecilic choice to run Hillary, I doubt Trump would have won. I am not a Trump groupie and he seems like a difficult man. I even feel sorry for Melania. But again, whether or not I would like to have 'a beer' with someone is a Democrat criteria. That is not my criteria for voting for someone. Read all of what I said before you reply, not what you want to read into it. If I intentionally kill someone and no one ever finds out I did, I am still guilty of murder. Is it really that hard to understand? I'll take it one step further in case you still don't get it. If someone accuses me of something I did, yes I'm guilty. If someone accuses me of something I didn't do, no I'm not guilty. Take the court system out of it. I'm not guilty of something because someone says I did something. I'm only guilty if I did what they say I did, or if I'm like Tramp, I ADMIT it on tape. And here we go again with Bill and Hillary. That's what you always do when someone tells the ugly truth about Tramp. If she was President it would be relevant, but since she isn't, it's just a feeble attempt to divert from the subject. And not that it has anything to do with Tramp, but yes I believe Bill Clinton is a rapist, among other things. And as I recall, you voted for him. And there was a third choice in the election. Write in the name of a person worthy of the job. I did and I feel better for having not voted for Tramp or Clinton. I'm well aware Trump is a boaster. He knew he was being recorded. I am not defending Trump as a person. His private life is his business and it's up to any alleged victims to go after him like they did with Cosby. I also know that Trump didn't turn into the devil until he announced he was running for POTUS. Before that, he was in the public eye for DECADES with nobody saying a thing about what a horrible 'racist', 'sexist', 'rapist' he was. He announces he's running for POTUS, suddenly he's Satan. I don't worship him, I don't idolize him, I don't look up to him. I voted for him for political reason not personal ones. Voting for Hillary who is corrupt, amoral and aides/abets her rapist husband, plus defends rapists was not why I didn't vote for her either. I turned against her ever since she voted for Bush's invasion of Iraq. If you are going to wait for a pristine candidate before you vote a major nominee, then you can just plan to continue wasting your vote on third-party candidates. Trump won largely because America got tired of wimps like Obama allowing the US to get crapped on by other countries and always putting Americans last. You can blame HIM for Trump.
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Post by James T. Kirk on Apr 28, 2018 16:07:38 GMT -8
Read all of what I said before you reply, not what you want to read into it. If I intentionally kill someone and no one ever finds out I did, I am still guilty of murder. Is it really that hard to understand? I'll take it one step further in case you still don't get it. If someone accuses me of something I did, yes I'm guilty. If someone accuses me of something I didn't do, no I'm not guilty. Take the court system out of it. I'm not guilty of something because someone says I did something. I'm only guilty if I did what they say I did, or if I'm like Tramp, I ADMIT it on tape. And here we go again with Bill and Hillary. That's what you always do when someone tells the ugly truth about Tramp. If she was President it would be relevant, but since she isn't, it's just a feeble attempt to divert from the subject. And not that it has anything to do with Tramp, but yes I believe Bill Clinton is a rapist, among other things. And as I recall, you voted for him. And there was a third choice in the election. Write in the name of a person worthy of the job. I did and I feel better for having not voted for Tramp or Clinton. I'm well aware Trump is a boaster. He knew he was being recorded. I am not defending Trump as a person. His private life is his business and it's up to any alleged victims to go after him like they did with Cosby. I also know that Trump didn't turn into the devil until he announced he was running for POTUS. Before that, he was in the public eye for DECADES with nobody saying a thing about what a horrible 'racist', 'sexist', 'rapist' he was. He announces he's running for POTUS, suddenly he's Satan. I don't worship him, I don't idolize him, I don't look up to him. I voted for him for political reason not personal ones. Voting for Hillary who is corrupt, amoral and aides/abets her rapist husband, plus defends rapists was not why I didn't vote for her either. I turned against her ever since she voted for Bush's invasion of Iraq. If you are going to wait for a pristine candidate before you vote a major nominee, then you can just plan to continue wasting your vote on third-party candidates. Trump won largely because America got tired of wimps like Obama allowing the US to get crapped on by other countries and always putting Americans last. You can blame HIM for Trump. This isn't about the election. It isn't about Hilary Clinton. It isn't about Bill Clinton. It isn't about Barrak Obama. It's about how you went off on one piece of sh*t for the way he treated women. I just pointed out that you voted for another piece of sh*t to be president, when you knew ahead of time that he treats women the same way. Look up "hypocritical".
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Post by Heeeeey on Apr 29, 2018 0:40:17 GMT -8
I'm well aware Trump is a boaster. He knew he was being recorded. I am not defending Trump as a person. His private life is his business and it's up to any alleged victims to go after him like they did with Cosby. I also know that Trump didn't turn into the devil until he announced he was running for POTUS. Before that, he was in the public eye for DECADES with nobody saying a thing about what a horrible 'racist', 'sexist', 'rapist' he was. He announces he's running for POTUS, suddenly he's Satan. I don't worship him, I don't idolize him, I don't look up to him. I voted for him for political reason not personal ones. Voting for Hillary who is corrupt, amoral and aides/abets her rapist husband, plus defends rapists was not why I didn't vote for her either. I turned against her ever since she voted for Bush's invasion of Iraq. If you are going to wait for a pristine candidate before you vote a major nominee, then you can just plan to continue wasting your vote on third-party candidates. Trump won largely because America got tired of wimps like Obama allowing the US to get crapped on by other countries and always putting Americans last. You can blame HIM for Trump. This isn't about the election. It isn't about Hilary Clinton. It isn't about Bill Clinton. It isn't about Barrak Obama. It's about how you went off on one piece of sh*t for the way he treated women. I just pointed out that you voted for another piece of sh*t to be president, when you knew ahead of time that he treats women the same way. Look up "hypocritical". It's also about doing what's best for the country. If both choices are criminals, I'm going to be forced to set aside my own moral judgment and do what's best for the country instead of putting myself first.
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Post by James T. Kirk on Apr 29, 2018 4:24:40 GMT -8
This isn't about the election. It isn't about Hilary Clinton. It isn't about Bill Clinton. It isn't about Barrak Obama. It's about how you went off on one piece of sh*t for the way he treated women. I just pointed out that you voted for another piece of sh*t to be president, when you knew ahead of time that he treats women the same way. Look up "hypocritical". It's also about doing what's best for the country. If both choices are criminals, I'm going to be forced to set aside my own moral judgment and do what's best for the country instead of putting myself first. Setting aside one's own morals is not what's best for anyone or anything. If we all do that, what do we have, but an immoral citizenry? This country is more divided than at any other time in history. Abandoning our own morals isn't a solution.
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Post by Heeeeey on Apr 29, 2018 11:43:48 GMT -8
It's also about doing what's best for the country. If both choices are criminals, I'm going to be forced to set aside my own moral judgment and do what's best for the country instead of putting myself first. Setting aside one's own morals is not what's best for anyone or anything. If we all do that, what do we have, but an immoral citizenry? This country is more divided than at any other time in history. Abandoning our own morals isn't a solution. It is divided because Democrats like it that way. Their strategy has always been divide and conquer. If they see the races getting along, they'll create a racial incident to broadcast about 24/7. Racial unrest fuels the Democrat party.
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